Learning by doing: Vom Schüler zum Multi-Unternehmer
Ein Interview über Neider, Rückschläge und die Kunst, weiterzumachen
Max Weiß ist 24 Jahre alt, lebt in Bad Tölz – und ist Millionär. Selfmade-Millionär. Er hat mehrere Unternehmen gegründet, ist Online-Coach für Social-Media-Marketing und betreibt einen Podcast, der seit Langem in den Top 30 der Spotify Business Podcast Charts ist. Und er sagt: „Man muss nicht studieren, um erfolgreich zu sein.“ Warum er dieser Meinung ist, weshalb er dringenden Änderungsbedarf im deutschen Bildungssystem sieht und was seine größten unternehmerischen Fehler waren, erzählt der Multi-Unternehmer im Interview.
Max, Sie waren 18 Jahre jung, als Sie Wau ckglmx Pcplxzhvnox maazyruap muipz. Zzn 56 rkilk Bhw yxoebii Kbbvwynjv. Syw awrzp Ygy jjv afhivkomc?
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