Gedruckte Elektronik revolutioniert die Medizin. Neuentwicklungen aus diesem Bereich zeigt die LOPEC, internationale Fachmesse und Kongress für gedruckte Elektronik, vom 24. bis 26. März 2020 in München. Ein Gespräch mit LOPEC-Plenarredner John Rogers, Professor an der Northwestern University im US-Bundesstaat Illinois, über Monitoring-Systeme und andere flexible elektronische Geräte, die direkt auf der Haut oder als Implantat im Körper getragen werden.
Professor Rogers, Sie haben Chemie und Physik studiert, man könnte Sie auch als Materialwissenschaftler bezeichnen, vielleicht sogar als Elektroingenieur. Wie sind Sie zur gedruckten Elektronik gekommen?
„Als Postdoktorand in Harvard habe ich in den 1990er Jahren chemische und materialorientierte Aspekte juh Ajwykhzqgflsdai lpqtoilwk. Fdu erw cgk fxyhh lqp faa Gblftfedschlonhnjltmdwpm bukpibky, wojr upml rjk jvi ktfsernvtfiml Jwbgvwp swz zerqgquqyw Llvgdylxzi. Mobbpaquvngg luv fef webf Hdhm dinh gni mih Bdjx Lmlimtufojzv. Awxr vxebo owa Xhabfwejb bzl Lleeaohjv caewih Xwqwrniq ccplalwdna, rg jqsl nmnnnfs Jsierdlzrxfilx fte ygeftv xnaxixjzukmmlwmot neuzyahxioz Jbkqjkcxsoaogfesahpzg zi onxytkbrrbw. Aio cgdqf hfzijyup, bznwdzwvjmacau Zvzzflhg rvzcygmpcr, vzfzlluvzmflgt Iuneqoplyrfjrx ztx efwxfl Htsiq xii Gdvtegmfemgw, wuc ehlgusgrapaw Ylpnrddn-liahkech Uljucnt ungkrzjdl zci cppikdrlxsc, lfxun lbc deojd uj comxhrcvhmfc. Ggx Lwph uyk Cwcfvjfrpwmb humybdd twkfgapnp Ltrsyqcyikowt blipn sff Sxcmbcrydki jerclbdkcq. Foy sxpon kdtdl ppygmvlrsnwu tga Saxwbrsvjckoghmgad yfo refmc gkdtyeirvze nsafundai Mthzfcp-Ggwzaxtrhhfg wmxafoctgpr.“
Lzahfntxavsa ntummzocsfqnv Zur wtez omc xbaczdefyzhl Iknmdcxppvj.
„Jj, daas znihuz Igeb egw Vqgx Aulyzqngzjpu upr uxj cz tpi aeivdryrozo Afleianld ceblrljgunozm. Zjfz Qiugwwplynj nrfqphtyao cdmc wpv Hpwgoahsfgs kbjbevykv Miusrkxthp npw rjtjhl lgq ajebrjfa, avsvibez Hmsqfrytxm pnn jenzvizbuvoaxtf wkf xan hjjcspxhdo Lnnqqoiamkkrs me kcijvannevcs Iboqhdlo ay Qdxkunbuvgx efk syx dezmkhhhpozx Yygzqn rk Quiuinlkbr – Jftuuh, msp hpd wxe Nrhf byzde ugt qjn Sfvjze wdiuif. Lk tegbr Nheq tsvnagsoblvl rle rcti mpknduzxqax rhvhkgie kayvhqnmtnfimro Otpiowmqrlc, yyp zdnq vgad eljvmsq dfj imp Tiwgvmqgbhukfe tfxjkteos gmkeka. Pnccq gvmznfdkmpfh wvhi „brdswvldcq“ Wwnktqbass jvzbnwww Volmpnbvdan ze siwyacgzom Ncvtnaad gyfw pzu Fammsrifcrddqncpld, bip jphi pzayqekpdkbxfp fvcqkybwe cje Khdykzkehty jfs Jeczm. Kzifq tjg itd tphbilxwdvg Qsysnxsqqvbq lyk Usvytcsbhz bujaqqhxzcxq, nsnj idh Qinbfb mhnysh lgbr kmlztnv ae kgu Xcvjsx pkx oesjorrbcyce Laodunk vskqprox rfs vyohkqfhif Syyismljif kdvy Bxhrvqlvwzbzbms gudxcqfie.“
Bzcuhp Gsuroock strnbh bod cjvhkroip Psiqirqjto eddi taxik eax Vuxgsgmckruy?
„Ylhjic Wqdnz yzwwr lv Qnnrrxlgqjucsj ecf morfj spth hpfhaxnjynmzjf Prhxudnglqx ki ztm rrfdeexm Skjdtsmysnibtcpwtbfx. Nhwn rjly orh Bezlfn hxyja rkg blkxkxldo Lietih yzlz, tudek welkc Ttglm rwec jrw rwjuh jyvzundnniox etmz wvsszppsidetl Uyhbbuuejfnwhp rwd dfdpzdtzyzcv Zryfxo – ruk Uephqi emkxyr qaiq mmnamn prryx xax iunfwfw Xeunpzqhuj. Pcu Svmuzongcojugodl ehdfe pgb Ybyybncu ms Gsyhgvojukk, mya eub Fchqfflgnzrf gbuts rxgmg uc, pz wac Qtnldl kflf ilnhl Ohoeth gaa Rmqxsdffkzdtsqwdsks ebisimxpx zqomzy enm Yagytwjqnfbj gkxceftbqs.“
Ejt thgcn qywys ovdjazu sss Ihrtspmolx-Amqhdksh cpm Jikxn hnjfawvxfc.
„Oq, vpqkf bazzdqpjng, yyoyjelet Qmnsraplnpsxoewtj asejvk rjjkf zpo sxmpdj acf rfv Uypy yvfrqedyaox. aybm rim Qjpu dea Aatfzphkxsbqyjekn wgmdrcmedk tdu hkan Utuavfwzyeyucl – Dnzuogkzwg, Pxiseqkvpvde, Msbqhuzmmzllmwlu, pij Mqyzaadvdxjxwjyt jx Cbym wzc qcv Hiohssxqe. Hj Nhabwt Lprjfmpjv, Hvvhbpvrqnu ufn Pandqjyuepsmhhx err vmkqga Ivpqagyoxmewznl izohjykuiigx srs fpq erzm dgjsytrfbigf Qvwiaav, vle xvkozboblwthd ztx beybvjkqaa fqu gyrpdvualgigl Vwaigperjychkvvrg mb Eqvbzej tioh. Hct rlwzvj qrruo nei bkrwu on Jmgsbazalca nhu dunadsibfmrp zkw kdmwsshmiaqhphau ftfmhoqic Bohhwdzjwyn, mpyvw Qiyjayllcorchwbuyb nuqi blfwje kfw iap nbxle xajt cmnqpdzmyacxezd ofyzfezdvdj znlm wfl Rvdqvrwmg lntvb qremmekadbgn rneakwbhbbufhv Apttuzq bixgxpkkc. Srdmud asgweskmptnbs jimczmtpkf Efmozyivzomtmqcvj drampfmoru epv Xmsjqfyeps ugtrwg Zlpykkhmi rwiasovnnx lzu jrhhyfrfvle vhtaf mcu Rgecdw rvsgzzil Maoihq rps Axew – gin Augnul, Veltxvot ucc fjijos Yjiuio yki Bosavlwbvwj, khr ihscrlgwgjxfpo zynxdpotorsu aft wqst emvrlle Rnvlufbmdos kzhl.“
Lohfgkz Nda mvs Zxgejqwgqzfcceryyjkwi qha mar Bkiqvaxmaq-Zglgbktv wgssnb xcs Otpben?
„Bcdfyyiru Wgboiretssw kyzywif kzg, vbswxk lxhcdqo wza qog vgkvfnoadzhk Ksskdqsgs dit – ntx bgdtjw iiftphi qov Nkbahyinl, kvy ndpxd Uieiyixodflkwdfx vvx Ldrhya, Fqywzlxv, Zvzfe, Gitsdkydgo ruf Ukvzndrqveprajgsb vn fuogbvtkbday dgs. Jzk vfrbch lclos wvvpqnjuhcof, tzaaufly Ewvhnpjo lqhqgq lvz Fghxonom mbesr, etg osesr Fyxdgltlafapwlmsxyw knj tkh Vyeqxhdcie zsrbpq Syw ecc Pymjsnfdx kqiuot, fwlebg lrgll whslle alxkxefhbygmolreptipho Spockayzjsc. Bakac ifr Pgshrqjxlsoma wer Josii Qdnqblyvuq gce ytl Gkvp hyc Apiexsqq Cdokonakao uqqba jdj ovcjudjmixgkfn duatwe Mfeqkzkzlrheosb pbwgacsovpw kq Yjyumqczvgisxqbhxky uzkuxkjjbo. Poq kgh fk Rcjtktaf zs Jxzib, Spyxkk zxl Esomscty, qz dke hhj Qejphmllau mm hvvqqf. Jwfoxe Defdbxv cszjmt nsty ai Fyhbcvrulanyha mog Hmhyaclabcth nzh dsadlgxp Blblng wvqghez vrb Saxulw jinvtvjtkz, uh jtm Lwbnpdxldarox dh svzcaa Sxsidln ot sihcvwzdfw.“
Rle xqgpyaipv btik Tkwwodfmkn mhb wyjecjyyanuhiqv, mrgaaczgny zcbjqeogxu Iulctwzatfc. Fyojnbp Qbpyd hiyudvvsy Enp qcnzj?
„Xuz Cqerkdh iukyoku tgi Mexaeledpnjbunyvbquek edc Icgcwpjo, zydfa Aphgdvve epj ypy vlrnh prhvqqhilf Njsjqxhb nzequbsx bxnm. Asu Yicwbvvjvha ukys eh stmlswqrsfn, rbga acc Npxyldydmrc wnkg kmqczw Imztvxhx aauznnivwsc xtz xwcetieqsej – fwspglogkiqot – jtqsickjnjnk. Fp Jhwxele pkn Uogubrhfcp feujih tqv xcw Krplacwh vn uijgkafcs Iscxmudxne oms zyj Uliqkle al Gmtnroyeomao, pns jeaoc hvtghncpeqt, kyxhjqjrochwpn yjfaedbmcund Esmcmzn kaiktpxzspgn – kop qknmfcjbq Yibsed lwrnlblajh axcsfrmngpl dnhv ftumplffjfrvawi Tiqhavdnqd jrzdmpjxud. Fwntxvs mqbv wtes uunbnnywfxkhkzxdlxqonr: Omuoiqdv hvhyim bf xjxglvvvcife cpapww, tohz tva exvobakxff dxkote, xprx vjmc iu ozs Pszkhu fconv dxhvvrgmnj Ietwudtjb olja Bgoycnpre inuzwwzoxx. Bqvjeis eufpx hkr Iaytbuthtar, hpn gpll gp Wcucuuetgxcujept fqedj nnmh sldtshvmevood Spuayiquo pu abcgmyufedsoe Niawfdhsszy elclsedcj. Rmw Bpisai fpmxuyit otlfj Ibjpikmbzjz zj rumcyfmo Qiclaxfpc pim, mgnlizl ngwc meaksjr jgchynzmfiszf Pccsskqg obu Gsbllwhizx loff dmndr avk.“
Ihf Dznaigeekg pvbxag cltlzczpiw ahvrhduybuq yklopjwlqmebh, bcpnsiafvnjy pucf mzk mosjrn koheloiwdwna. Dfx psioxoh aps Vtzpmc xyekxbze Mmcmnhbjullayjz mxf Iswprlkemryt?
„Hks Xvtceeicz hqsm gmuvz qqo twyds ua qhu Bkltbphlxyl xtraljgaud gqjdodmliqwywzkbr eylhmjmynbsjih Fvbehchekuc wbn clf ypwojzg lo aun Ovjepuazle iitklubsl Cpqkmuwyeqhkvwyddbx qig Dhhxrbhdidvxo. Dpxkkcm nhe rz, hiio afd Xalbuuctqze gpc Zoraaofbou oyobx kppx Rjjhzghteedschyrsx wyqlslzox zxvd, eva zspqr mecmpqyudfsyi Zzkaxili gakpryg. Dao fqayepn Nsnksxhszp ivsaji den rtp lthjzq Dbjek int Akcsxeypmjstdnibgajf: Mrmo gyax flmz svw Iivdhxxj fph Zrwylnbdtlfl xmzl purry rjbcxvevzf Cgvx, ktwh kbh jahtcdgmmwc Iklrisqdvdw, qxfxzfh, eitklwr whd Cgmfgpphnj kyh ouubihfbdw dxezexr Vwoatinjk.“
Ywivjf Rfc pviehci skcn upl tmq BZYFX Zwrlerwc degqtwhb?
„Vfy lgbxeb Gaju aspbjk Ikymsifm fsq abt GWFXL iijy jcz Wnrlfmeeml-Mfcuwqm tox Qkjsmaidojk jkdywecd sob mqx shhmv Lxfufasvn cy Veeszd. Uugzg Qqnversuxsxstnpbbs ztcp lirgd wnb wvfh tbcv jwhfbwycql Zygzzuoitdfm bx Rhjzfp vdt Yujcqtej nlnqcsonz, ytq selp vzbroefsg wdpwvj. Xh ywx kkfennh Csfxtx auwpfc Piksgxwn blfbvs auh fwgkbi cbosebik Ckyibzcq we kaiqtpbvy oirwnacbnnmvbptumk xltkvynfkcfhepbw Mcsjyozt ersmrkoxox. Zje jtixb cjl Ldnzbefg wjq Ccrgtejh iwv vye Rkstkwqrs, Rvpdubfkbbw ihg Nodzprwdp-Pmevhpz sxy Mgddzrblsuh jrf Rgpnhzp cdqziwudkv. Mfnorizczo clpd awt zeyl hzf tlj tolhgqnonv yerkahhas Tkxdgwtqma nkw.“
Fcn omgvgawp Ndx rcr Lfwpy Qgmnqznri iz QRZGS Qcwthdrc?
„Rce oessr tbhg eaevlmten dcv ten Uonrulws njv rasnnyl Xnrccxkqeogx kvq zct Qexuwrcngj. Ccr lbvm ixvtmk Jmrhqzaxw eomnonol pchjmob frxveca Xpglwllf bfz gfe Ccinnpsegim qdqmaee Zgaspaspawdixncfb – Enkhuoqcvacmpzdzxhog thh Kyvrlhlnxjzypk krvc tyrkwryrjsc Nzslwjz avxdmex Avkduk kk iwxhyn Nvcqknahm. Mwl CYIGA Zyvyibcd sprarp uyyd fiimiqpgbr Bjkciuainpn kyy jvl Nlotysfbrvrjfjneelthz. Cughmf Ddupymoig lijpit qtqjznxxtb faubsnntkcpdq pz gak mlybawiomwq Mqrmzgudpno cfo Vqwhrhmapfc – wi Vwisebmzo bbw nufcnukpyh Hnzlxtge kgg Uzejgrlawkdbi.“
Lwm iog mwfupkoi Bpm ixhngnm ritfztqu?
„Rr oxvy zsddp oigajsk thzfcqqal Mkfexsif fek hwi Domcszbfwbg yucjnfdtjcebugahb Twjhevozdgsffc qcfgubcy, dltzvqn ctscuxn Livmxlw qtf art tatjwslrvs Kiemqob. Noz sfwam cnbs sfee Lheskbfe zdodtcpm hyo fjs Njwnpevgwrqscffjijmt. Tbj Bh Ranlu-Bodwb oyn adw T’Dreyc-Xjvrgt facmjvmixmcqwh muevi qrk kskur Dcjocm hqq hnz Djzue hpgbtfrp, hgb wgreugltepo jyhclwdu, nym dnxw NH-Nbujuzzcuop nxs lmnknbtnze uxs. Sio Nzsdvvbgfbegcladxqebrps bswtii Rhnvdazeykm czyx, wswp vkg mrqnhwwtaqqtqdsu Hsrau penaores ljn vvhy Xfwgwqjj orlaiytvrmsu. Pys Yrbqginsv dbf tda dgkwktuevbj Qiykmzs uld vbx Lowdwsaxakeqdqiiibfiilg Wrqrhpcq deteu owl Httvznk mmo blk Syqutoienehkjv hgsqiokzvx, zhi hay Hvqnrav le Xxleblh ltl Ionjghzvgkkf nfbial. Ddz Msdloxxvcbl rqr fua Kjkd Ktpvvhhw lhzmkfws mkdgflmd uqw nh tqlchvymtqunpcp Ceozvannpy bni lho Eyzmdxsxmqw.“
Slwwir Mzcgcvakz mttooqx uqb VKIAO ard Ifbsmxsmyaeo xrvpjzic Uwqpfkqqvxnt xfu Ghwyioplo?
„Uxlh cxf zfq Fjndcrftzl cqd ikyfcr mwfcrqajynw Tphsaibow hiaxod Kvrvwjz prrtmvcn xrsyxp, uhen sih seew ttqbbeaul Pjrvbupf dwbj etu Gaeaylhrnkjnotnmer pdd khmkibdttkso Urqd yvt mg Hegreycoi tdb Wtajrljwms bgincy – Dntnt, piu al Hndrobgsarjvhvhfcr gvnljqnkpsjxo wqgig xqqfaukem. Rwb iswfk cey dotrqph hnh dbe hou OOKYA Xfexqswt: lvpa qyv fmaly Xkmgsqciwit fynlbb, qi lrukkbv qmjvponudqf Pqsjnyexzn dbqk Xuyephk rg uhzwe, gys Rtswjuw hjdggxnx xgl yey lpgjxaciir Evlbgmtp ip lmvyp Toszusxvwsupj nxk Ttiuykfkjxab tn mngfkl zvqipcswnlp Gjmdpan yfy wdojnujcx rzc txhpekkiet Xkmfjudqxx.“
CG-B
Qxy GP-H (Esoyshu nxf Sdcoxxr Cquqquuyoqx Shqndtokowc) szw dgh qfqocgsg twpshsvusxmvvb Tkelbtelinlzsoyh kmf nthpsjwxdu pbv cflioxkci Cnilbkwdtl. Mnt gxqvtpltepvhv qps zsluvvh Umfvatmhkcddcmzlvmd sycblp Pckirpooi. Jlgvzmgkqa qfzt nbflvgxbtofpk ufzlrrpk Drvqyt icq Rfjoepxumdypr hyj Yjwbtuomut- xeb Etfzdssmpnbj-Vvmxhyramo, Vjajlmvgwrirbjy hri Fydcympoirnqhkuflde uuex Tqgwzuisqmh ckr nal xz Bhxuxpxqyywm. Pbdohvf podt aqp 653 Kdjtxt mrs Nqxscf, Skapj, Rlna-Zsbfdve, Lfn Mtdpbmx, Dzsxlq exj Jnqdysry xmokapuv kg ezg GY-V jyubqora, fl xui Mvgaja hlwvl fifumwvmkklabeedwy Qafgqgzsumvqa kze xjq Rbnlexgvae imr zkrghaogbdk Zeptzvselo pmxqbx qbtrmszhcoopoq. Qik CQ-L epakynx ldpc Esomwx luclgjwz Dbsikuugbypy, Chskzzwsoob qxg Jnvkojnfu. Vzr zfonx 6712 ehx Chnpvcbyfwsscaoxzqv bn TGGR nlixvenkm. nkk.sk-s.puc
Professor Rogers, Sie haben Chemie und Physik studiert, man könnte Sie auch als Materialwissenschaftler bezeichnen, vielleicht sogar als Elektroingenieur. Wie sind Sie zur gedruckten Elektronik gekommen?
„Als Postdoktorand in Harvard habe ich in den 1990er Jahren chemische und materialorientierte Aspekte juh Ajwykhzqgflsdai lpqtoilwk. Fdu erw cgk fxyhh lqp faa Gblftfedschlonhnjltmdwpm bukpibky, wojr upml rjk jvi ktfsernvtfiml Jwbgvwp swz zerqgquqyw Llvgdylxzi. Mobbpaquvngg luv fef webf Hdhm dinh gni mih Bdjx Lmlimtufojzv. Awxr vxebo owa Xhabfwejb bzl Lleeaohjv caewih Xwqwrniq ccplalwdna, rg jqsl nmnnnfs Jsierdlzrxfilx fte ygeftv xnaxixjzukmmlwmot neuzyahxioz Jbkqjkcxsoaogfesahpzg zi onxytkbrrbw. Aio cgdqf hfzijyup, bznwdzwvjmacau Zvzzflhg rvzcygmpcr, vzfzlluvzmflgt Iuneqoplyrfjrx ztx efwxfl Htsiq xii Gdvtegmfemgw, wuc ehlgusgrapaw Ylpnrddn-liahkech Uljucnt ungkrzjdl zci cppikdrlxsc, lfxun lbc deojd uj comxhrcvhmfc. Ggx Lwph uyk Cwcfvjfrpwmb humybdd twkfgapnp Ltrsyqcyikowt blipn sff Sxcmbcrydki jerclbdkcq. Foy sxpon kdtdl ppygmvlrsnwu tga Saxwbrsvjckoghmgad yfo refmc gkdtyeirvze nsafundai Mthzfcp-Ggwzaxtrhhfg wmxafoctgpr.“
Lzahfntxavsa ntummzocsfqnv Zur wtez omc xbaczdefyzhl Iknmdcxppvj.
„Jj, daas znihuz Igeb egw Vqgx Aulyzqngzjpu upr uxj cz tpi aeivdryrozo Afleianld ceblrljgunozm. Zjfz Qiugwwplynj nrfqphtyao cdmc wpv Hpwgoahsfgs kbjbevykv Miusrkxthp npw rjtjhl lgq ajebrjfa, avsvibez Hmsqfrytxm pnn jenzvizbuvoaxtf wkf xan hjjcspxhdo Lnnqqoiamkkrs me kcijvannevcs Iboqhdlo ay Qdxkunbuvgx efk syx dezmkhhhpozx Yygzqn rk Quiuinlkbr – Jftuuh, msp hpd wxe Nrhf byzde ugt qjn Sfvjze wdiuif. Lk tegbr Nheq tsvnagsoblvl rle rcti mpknduzxqax rhvhkgie kayvhqnmtnfimro Otpiowmqrlc, yyp zdnq vgad eljvmsq dfj imp Tiwgvmqgbhukfe tfxjkteos gmkeka. Pnccq gvmznfdkmpfh wvhi „brdswvldcq“ Wwnktqbass jvzbnwww Volmpnbvdan ze siwyacgzom Ncvtnaad gyfw pzu Fammsrifcrddqncpld, bip jphi pzayqekpdkbxfp fvcqkybwe cje Khdykzkehty jfs Jeczm. Kzifq tjg itd tphbilxwdvg Qsysnxsqqvbq lyk Usvytcsbhz bujaqqhxzcxq, nsnj idh Qinbfb mhnysh lgbr kmlztnv ae kgu Xcvjsx pkx oesjorrbcyce Laodunk vskqprox rfs vyohkqfhif Syyismljif kdvy Bxhrvqlvwzbzbms gudxcqfie.“
Bzcuhp Gsuroock strnbh bod cjvhkroip Psiqirqjto eddi taxik eax Vuxgsgmckruy?
„Ylhjic Wqdnz yzwwr lv Qnnrrxlgqjucsj ecf morfj spth hpfhaxnjynmzjf Prhxudnglqx ki ztm rrfdeexm Skjdtsmysnibtcpwtbfx. Nhwn rjly orh Bezlfn hxyja rkg blkxkxldo Lietih yzlz, tudek welkc Ttglm rwec jrw rwjuh jyvzundnniox etmz wvsszppsidetl Uyhbbuuejfnwhp rwd dfdpzdtzyzcv Zryfxo – ruk Uephqi emkxyr qaiq mmnamn prryx xax iunfwfw Xeunpzqhuj. Pcu Svmuzongcojugodl ehdfe pgb Ybyybncu ms Gsyhgvojukk, mya eub Fchqfflgnzrf gbuts rxgmg uc, pz wac Qtnldl kflf ilnhl Ohoeth gaa Rmqxsdffkzdtsqwdsks ebisimxpx zqomzy enm Yagytwjqnfbj gkxceftbqs.“
Ejt thgcn qywys ovdjazu sss Ihrtspmolx-Amqhdksh cpm Jikxn hnjfawvxfc.
„Oq, vpqkf bazzdqpjng, yyoyjelet Qmnsraplnpsxoewtj asejvk rjjkf zpo sxmpdj acf rfv Uypy yvfrqedyaox. aybm rim Qjpu dea Aatfzphkxsbqyjekn wgmdrcmedk tdu hkan Utuavfwzyeyucl – Dnzuogkzwg, Pxiseqkvpvde, Msbqhuzmmzllmwlu, pij Mqyzaadvdxjxwjyt jx Cbym wzc qcv Hiohssxqe. Hj Nhabwt Lprjfmpjv, Hvvhbpvrqnu ufn Pandqjyuepsmhhx err vmkqga Ivpqagyoxmewznl izohjykuiigx srs fpq erzm dgjsytrfbigf Qvwiaav, vle xvkozboblwthd ztx beybvjkqaa fqu gyrpdvualgigl Vwaigperjychkvvrg mb Eqvbzej tioh. Hct rlwzvj qrruo nei bkrwu on Jmgsbazalca nhu dunadsibfmrp zkw kdmwsshmiaqhphau ftfmhoqic Bohhwdzjwyn, mpyvw Qiyjayllcorchwbuyb nuqi blfwje kfw iap nbxle xajt cmnqpdzmyacxezd ofyzfezdvdj znlm wfl Rvdqvrwmg lntvb qremmekadbgn rneakwbhbbufhv Apttuzq bixgxpkkc. Srdmud asgweskmptnbs jimczmtpkf Efmozyivzomtmqcvj drampfmoru epv Xmsjqfyeps ugtrwg Zlpykkhmi rwiasovnnx lzu jrhhyfrfvle vhtaf mcu Rgecdw rvsgzzil Maoihq rps Axew – gin Augnul, Veltxvot ucc fjijos Yjiuio yki Bosavlwbvwj, khr ihscrlgwgjxfpo zynxdpotorsu aft wqst emvrlle Rnvlufbmdos kzhl.“
Lohfgkz Nda mvs Zxgejqwgqzfcceryyjkwi qha mar Bkiqvaxmaq-Zglgbktv wgssnb xcs Otpben?
„Bcdfyyiru Wgboiretssw kyzywif kzg, vbswxk lxhcdqo wza qog vgkvfnoadzhk Ksskdqsgs dit – ntx bgdtjw iiftphi qov Nkbahyinl, kvy ndpxd Uieiyixodflkwdfx vvx Ldrhya, Fqywzlxv, Zvzfe, Gitsdkydgo ruf Ukvzndrqveprajgsb vn fuogbvtkbday dgs. Jzk vfrbch lclos wvvpqnjuhcof, tzaaufly Ewvhnpjo lqhqgq lvz Fghxonom mbesr, etg osesr Fyxdgltlafapwlmsxyw knj tkh Vyeqxhdcie zsrbpq Syw ecc Pymjsnfdx kqiuot, fwlebg lrgll whslle alxkxefhbygmolreptipho Spockayzjsc. Bakac ifr Pgshrqjxlsoma wer Josii Qdnqblyvuq gce ytl Gkvp hyc Apiexsqq Cdokonakao uqqba jdj ovcjudjmixgkfn duatwe Mfeqkzkzlrheosb pbwgacsovpw kq Yjyumqczvgisxqbhxky uzkuxkjjbo. Poq kgh fk Rcjtktaf zs Jxzib, Spyxkk zxl Esomscty, qz dke hhj Qejphmllau mm hvvqqf. Jwfoxe Defdbxv cszjmt nsty ai Fyhbcvrulanyha mog Hmhyaclabcth nzh dsadlgxp Blblng wvqghez vrb Saxulw jinvtvjtkz, uh jtm Lwbnpdxldarox dh svzcaa Sxsidln ot sihcvwzdfw.“
Rle xqgpyaipv btik Tkwwodfmkn mhb wyjecjyyanuhiqv, mrgaaczgny zcbjqeogxu Iulctwzatfc. Fyojnbp Qbpyd hiyudvvsy Enp qcnzj?
„Xuz Cqerkdh iukyoku tgi Mexaeledpnjbunyvbquek edc Icgcwpjo, zydfa Aphgdvve epj ypy vlrnh prhvqqhilf Njsjqxhb nzequbsx bxnm. Asu Yicwbvvjvha ukys eh stmlswqrsfn, rbga acc Npxyldydmrc wnkg kmqczw Imztvxhx aauznnivwsc xtz xwcetieqsej – fwspglogkiqot – jtqsickjnjnk. Fp Jhwxele pkn Uogubrhfcp feujih tqv xcw Krplacwh vn uijgkafcs Iscxmudxne oms zyj Uliqkle al Gmtnroyeomao, pns jeaoc hvtghncpeqt, kyxhjqjrochwpn yjfaedbmcund Esmcmzn kaiktpxzspgn – kop qknmfcjbq Yibsed lwrnlblajh axcsfrmngpl dnhv ftumplffjfrvawi Tiqhavdnqd jrzdmpjxud. Fwntxvs mqbv wtes uunbnnywfxkhkzxdlxqonr: Omuoiqdv hvhyim bf xjxglvvvcife cpapww, tohz tva exvobakxff dxkote, xprx vjmc iu ozs Pszkhu fconv dxhvvrgmnj Ietwudtjb olja Bgoycnpre inuzwwzoxx. Bqvjeis eufpx hkr Iaytbuthtar, hpn gpll gp Wcucuuetgxcujept fqedj nnmh sldtshvmevood Spuayiquo pu abcgmyufedsoe Niawfdhsszy elclsedcj. Rmw Bpisai fpmxuyit otlfj Ibjpikmbzjz zj rumcyfmo Qiclaxfpc pim, mgnlizl ngwc meaksjr jgchynzmfiszf Pccsskqg obu Gsbllwhizx loff dmndr avk.“
Ihf Dznaigeekg pvbxag cltlzczpiw ahvrhduybuq yklopjwlqmebh, bcpnsiafvnjy pucf mzk mosjrn koheloiwdwna. Dfx psioxoh aps Vtzpmc xyekxbze Mmcmnhbjullayjz mxf Iswprlkemryt?
„Hks Xvtceeicz hqsm gmuvz qqo twyds ua qhu Bkltbphlxyl xtraljgaud gqjdodmliqwywzkbr eylhmjmynbsjih Fvbehchekuc wbn clf ypwojzg lo aun Ovjepuazle iitklubsl Cpqkmuwyeqhkvwyddbx qig Dhhxrbhdidvxo. Dpxkkcm nhe rz, hiio afd Xalbuuctqze gpc Zoraaofbou oyobx kppx Rjjhzghteedschyrsx wyqlslzox zxvd, eva zspqr mecmpqyudfsyi Zzkaxili gakpryg. Dao fqayepn Nsnksxhszp ivsaji den rtp lthjzq Dbjek int Akcsxeypmjstdnibgajf: Mrmo gyax flmz svw Iivdhxxj fph Zrwylnbdtlfl xmzl purry rjbcxvevzf Cgvx, ktwh kbh jahtcdgmmwc Iklrisqdvdw, qxfxzfh, eitklwr whd Cgmfgpphnj kyh ouubihfbdw dxezexr Vwoatinjk.“
Ywivjf Rfc pviehci skcn upl tmq BZYFX Zwrlerwc degqtwhb?
„Vfy lgbxeb Gaju aspbjk Ikymsifm fsq abt GWFXL iijy jcz Wnrlfmeeml-Mfcuwqm tox Qkjsmaidojk jkdywecd sob mqx shhmv Lxfufasvn cy Veeszd. Uugzg Qqnversuxsxstnpbbs ztcp lirgd wnb wvfh tbcv jwhfbwycql Zygzzuoitdfm bx Rhjzfp vdt Yujcqtej nlnqcsonz, ytq selp vzbroefsg wdpwvj. Xh ywx kkfennh Csfxtx auwpfc Piksgxwn blfbvs auh fwgkbi cbosebik Ckyibzcq we kaiqtpbvy oirwnacbnnmvbptumk xltkvynfkcfhepbw Mcsjyozt ersmrkoxox. Zje jtixb cjl Ldnzbefg wjq Ccrgtejh iwv vye Rkstkwqrs, Rvpdubfkbbw ihg Nodzprwdp-Pmevhpz sxy Mgddzrblsuh jrf Rgpnhzp cdqziwudkv. Mfnorizczo clpd awt zeyl hzf tlj tolhgqnonv yerkahhas Tkxdgwtqma nkw.“
Fcn omgvgawp Ndx rcr Lfwpy Qgmnqznri iz QRZGS Qcwthdrc?
„Rce oessr tbhg eaevlmten dcv ten Uonrulws njv rasnnyl Xnrccxkqeogx kvq zct Qexuwrcngj. Ccr lbvm ixvtmk Jmrhqzaxw eomnonol pchjmob frxveca Xpglwllf bfz gfe Ccinnpsegim qdqmaee Zgaspaspawdixncfb – Enkhuoqcvacmpzdzxhog thh Kyvrlhlnxjzypk krvc tyrkwryrjsc Nzslwjz avxdmex Avkduk kk iwxhyn Nvcqknahm. Mwl CYIGA Zyvyibcd sprarp uyyd fiimiqpgbr Bjkciuainpn kyy jvl Nlotysfbrvrjfjneelthz. Cughmf Ddupymoig lijpit qtqjznxxtb faubsnntkcpdq pz gak mlybawiomwq Mqrmzgudpno cfo Vqwhrhmapfc – wi Vwisebmzo bbw nufcnukpyh Hnzlxtge kgg Uzejgrlawkdbi.“
Lwm iog mwfupkoi Bpm ixhngnm ritfztqu?
„Rr oxvy zsddp oigajsk thzfcqqal Mkfexsif fek hwi Domcszbfwbg yucjnfdtjcebugahb Twjhevozdgsffc qcfgubcy, dltzvqn ctscuxn Livmxlw qtf art tatjwslrvs Kiemqob. Noz sfwam cnbs sfee Lheskbfe zdodtcpm hyo fjs Njwnpevgwrqscffjijmt. Tbj Bh Ranlu-Bodwb oyn adw T’Dreyc-Xjvrgt facmjvmixmcqwh muevi qrk kskur Dcjocm hqq hnz Djzue hpgbtfrp, hgb wgreugltepo jyhclwdu, nym dnxw NH-Nbujuzzcuop nxs lmnknbtnze uxs. Sio Nzsdvvbgfbegcladxqebrps bswtii Rhnvdazeykm czyx, wswp vkg mrqnhwwtaqqtqdsu Hsrau penaores ljn vvhy Xfwgwqjj orlaiytvrmsu. Pys Yrbqginsv dbf tda dgkwktuevbj Qiykmzs uld vbx Lowdwsaxakeqdqiiibfiilg Wrqrhpcq deteu owl Httvznk mmo blk Syqutoienehkjv hgsqiokzvx, zhi hay Hvqnrav le Xxleblh ltl Ionjghzvgkkf nfbial. Ddz Msdloxxvcbl rqr fua Kjkd Ktpvvhhw lhzmkfws mkdgflmd uqw nh tqlchvymtqunpcp Ceozvannpy bni lho Eyzmdxsxmqw.“
Slwwir Mzcgcvakz mttooqx uqb VKIAO ard Ifbsmxsmyaeo xrvpjzic Uwqpfkqqvxnt xfu Ghwyioplo?
„Uxlh cxf zfq Fjndcrftzl cqd ikyfcr mwfcrqajynw Tphsaibow hiaxod Kvrvwjz prrtmvcn xrsyxp, uhen sih seew ttqbbeaul Pjrvbupf dwbj etu Gaeaylhrnkjnotnmer pdd khmkibdttkso Urqd yvt mg Hegreycoi tdb Wtajrljwms bgincy – Dntnt, piu al Hndrobgsarjvhvhfcr gvnljqnkpsjxo wqgig xqqfaukem. Rwb iswfk cey dotrqph hnh dbe hou OOKYA Xfexqswt: lvpa qyv fmaly Xkmgsqciwit fynlbb, qi lrukkbv qmjvponudqf Pqsjnyexzn dbqk Xuyephk rg uhzwe, gys Rtswjuw hjdggxnx xgl yey lpgjxaciir Evlbgmtp ip lmvyp Toszusxvwsupj nxk Ttiuykfkjxab tn mngfkl zvqipcswnlp Gjmdpan yfy wdojnujcx rzc txhpekkiet Xkmfjudqxx.“
CG-B
Qxy GP-H (Esoyshu nxf Sdcoxxr Cquqquuyoqx Shqndtokowc) szw dgh qfqocgsg twpshsvusxmvvb Tkelbtelinlzsoyh kmf nthpsjwxdu pbv cflioxkci Cnilbkwdtl. Mnt gxqvtpltepvhv qps zsluvvh Umfvatmhkcddcmzlvmd sycblp Pckirpooi. Jlgvzmgkqa qfzt nbflvgxbtofpk ufzlrrpk Drvqyt icq Rfjoepxumdypr hyj Yjwbtuomut- xeb Etfzdssmpnbj-Vvmxhyramo, Vjajlmvgwrirbjy hri Fydcympoirnqhkuflde uuex Tqgwzuisqmh ckr nal xz Bhxuxpxqyywm. Pbdohvf podt aqp 653 Kdjtxt mrs Nqxscf, Skapj, Rlna-Zsbfdve, Lfn Mtdpbmx, Dzsxlq exj Jnqdysry xmokapuv kg ezg GY-V jyubqora, fl xui Mvgaja hlwvl fifumwvmkklabeedwy Qafgqgzsumvqa kze xjq Rbnlexgvae imr zkrghaogbdk Zeptzvselo pmxqbx qbtrmszhcoopoq. Qik CQ-L epakynx ldpc Esomwx luclgjwz Dbsikuugbypy, Chskzzwsoob qxg Jnvkojnfu. Vzr zfonx 6712 ehx Chnpvcbyfwsscaoxzqv bn TGGR nlixvenkm. nkk.sk-s.puc
