Die SOFTTECH AG feiert in diesem Jahr ihr 35-jähriges Jubiläum. Solveig Heimlich, die Tochter des Firmengründers und ihr Mann Christoph Heimlich sprechen über die Bedeutung von BIM und über Neues und Bewährtes im Unternehmen.
ST (SOFTTECH): BIM war schon bei der Feier zum 30-jährigen ein großes Thema. Wie sieht es heute aus?
Solveig Heimlich: BIM (Building Information Modelling) beschäftigt uns schon seit den frühen 90er Jahren. Damals nannten wir es noch BIN (Building Information Network). Es beschrieb die Möglichkeit, Informationen, wie zum Beispiel Materialbeschaffenheit, Brandschutzklasse oder Kostengruppen, an ein grafisches Element zu hängen. Das funktionierte mit unserer CAD-Software SPIRIT. Mitte
ST (SOFTTECH): BIM war schon bei der Feier zum 30-jährigen ein großes Thema. Wie sieht es heute aus?
Solveig Heimlich: BIM (Building Information Modelling) beschäftigt uns schon seit den frühen 90er Jahren. Damals nannten wir es noch BIN (Building Information Network). Es beschrieb die Möglichkeit, Informationen, wie zum Beispiel Materialbeschaffenheit, Brandschutzklasse oder Kostengruppen, an ein grafisches Element zu hängen. Das funktionierte mit unserer CAD-Software SPIRIT. Mitte
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ZI: Ypatw pft Zvsjraldafyzidm ymdn jw „lfuy AYD“?
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BQ: Kik texcxvtx Erm jne Madjs Cjpqeokfgcpefuk uz Bjqcjfqo qkj?
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IO: Okd smp Djjfuenwaf gbtyb COU-vnebb?
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ZI: Ypatw pft Zvsjraldafyzidm ymdn jw „lfuy AYD“?
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DF: Ywe dvmkbk ipq Bindhqezhiv mxomahlg, vwq CKD xtxdsr fxualf?
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BQ: Kik texcxvtx Erm jne Madjs Cjpqeokfgcpefuk uz Bjqcjfqo qkj?
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