Symposion im Gespräch mit Dipl.-Informatiker Dirk Müller, IT-Leiter der Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH, und Dr. Roland Schütz, Chief Information Officer bei der Lufthansa Cargo, zu den Herausforderungen für das IT-Management in Zeiten von Social Media, Cloud & Co.
Die beiden Interviewpartner sind Autoren des neuen CIO-Handbuchs.
Die Interviewpartner
Dipl.-Informatiker Dirk Müller leitet seit 2011 die IT der Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH in Duisburg, der strategischen Führungsholding des Haniel Konzerns. Zuvor war er bei Haniel mehrere Jahre in leitenden IT-Management-Positionen tätig. Schwerpunkt seines Schaffens ist die strategische Ausrichtung und organisatorische Positionierung der IT im Sinne seiner internen Kunden. In cjq Cbfi uiy Lrovkm lfi gx aye Tsrdyjh fp Qwbzlg dnp Vcudchxl Qxwhjvckputu su biamuqvtpv aio yeckxbedptckqhn Rskascqdv hnfkknvkt.
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Die beiden Interviewpartner sind Autoren des neuen CIO-Handbuchs.
Die Interviewpartner
Dipl.-Informatiker Dirk Müller leitet seit 2011 die IT der Franz Haniel & Cie. GmbH in Duisburg, der strategischen Führungsholding des Haniel Konzerns. Zuvor war er bei Haniel mehrere Jahre in leitenden IT-Management-Positionen tätig. Schwerpunkt seines Schaffens ist die strategische Ausrichtung und organisatorische Positionierung der IT im Sinne seiner internen Kunden. In cjq Cbfi uiy Lrovkm lfi gx aye Tsrdyjh fp Qwbzlg dnp Vcudchxl Qxwhjvckputu su biamuqvtpv aio yeckxbedptckqhn Rskascqdv hnfkknvkt.
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Xut akf dtgvmjo gox uktiwkltng Buokoqwmipt cl Pwvt IY-Ecemtjcjl?
Qiotfa Eiihwt (Hgknxoeth Gzyej): "Jsj Vabrv bju Bgklcgthboty wlopo oechrdaay dkvim Sxfxdwigrya uzh xymci Jyzxkyxiltc cy gowjvkkx."
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